Comments on: The 5 Best Protein Sources for Building Muscle http://www.FatManUnleashed.com/the-5-best-protein-sources-for-building-muscle/ A Healthy Weight Loss and Fitness Blog Wed, 20 Aug 2008 12:15:59 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.6 By: Israel Lagares http://www.FatManUnleashed.com/the-5-best-protein-sources-for-building-muscle/#comment-4767 Israel Lagares Sat, 05 Apr 2008 21:51:44 +0000 http://www.FatManUnleashed.com/the-5-best-protein-sources-for-building-muscle/#comment-4767 Can you share the difference Dave? Can you share the difference Dave?

]]> By: Dave http://www.FatManUnleashed.com/the-5-best-protein-sources-for-building-muscle/#comment-4766 Dave Sat, 05 Apr 2008 18:51:34 +0000 http://www.FatManUnleashed.com/the-5-best-protein-sources-for-building-muscle/#comment-4766 Casein is more anticatabolic than it is anabolic. Seems like fish should have made the list. Casein is more anticatabolic than it is anabolic.

Seems like fish should have made the list.

]]> By: Israel http://www.FatManUnleashed.com/the-5-best-protein-sources-for-building-muscle/#comment-4705 Israel Sun, 30 Mar 2008 18:16:17 +0000 http://www.FatManUnleashed.com/the-5-best-protein-sources-for-building-muscle/#comment-4705 Correction, that was Dr. Kal's joint. Correction, that was Dr. Kal’s joint.

]]> By: Israel http://www.FatManUnleashed.com/the-5-best-protein-sources-for-building-muscle/#comment-4704 Israel Sun, 30 Mar 2008 18:14:56 +0000 http://www.FatManUnleashed.com/the-5-best-protein-sources-for-building-muscle/#comment-4704 I just wanted to thank everyone that has commented and helped enlighten me, and I hope others. This is precisely one of the reasons why I love blogging. . I just wanted to thank everyone that has commented and helped enlighten me, and I hope others. This is precisely one of the reasons why I love blogging. .

]]> By: Nico http://www.FatManUnleashed.com/the-5-best-protein-sources-for-building-muscle/#comment-4694 Nico Sun, 30 Mar 2008 00:04:54 +0000 http://www.FatManUnleashed.com/the-5-best-protein-sources-for-building-muscle/#comment-4694 With the soy industry being big business (220 mil tons of soy produced per year worldwide), I have a very hard time to rely on health and nutritional advice from a governmental instance like the FDA, which clearly has proved itself uncapable to provide unambiguous dietary advice. (cf. Food Politics, Marion Nestle). I much more prefer to listen to what authorative scientists have to say about the subject. I'm talking about well respected and objective scientists who aren't paid by the food industry to glorify a certain product. I'm talking about scienstist like Walter Willett, currently one of the most respected epidemiologist in the field. http://www.in-cites.com/scientists/cli-20-aug2005.html => He's the second most cited scientist in the field of clinical medicine in the last decade. This is what I learned from reading willett's take on soy in "Eat, drink and be healthy": - It's not certain if soy prevents cancer or increases the risk of cancer! Different studies say different things and the positive research results get the most media attention. (I wonder why? $$). @ Yura, I find it very hard to take an article serious that has a heading like that :-). But your concern is justified. There are plenty of other reasons to reconsider your protein sources. Tofu made from soy really isn't that special and could possibly even be hazardous (testicular cancer? Alzheimer?? ... these side effects are all still uncertain but very possible). About Fatman's article, I learned something which I thank you for Isreal. My knowledge about protein is extremely flawed, mainly because I have never really cared for weightlifting. (even though I know I should because it has many health benefits). Never ever did I eat or drink a protein shake, whey or any other protein supplements. All my protein lovin' comes from chicken! Mighty tasty this stuff is. Greetings, Nico With the soy industry being big business (220 mil tons of soy produced per year worldwide), I have a very hard time to rely on health and nutritional advice from a governmental instance like the FDA, which clearly has proved itself uncapable to provide unambiguous dietary advice. (cf. Food Politics, Marion Nestle).

I much more prefer to listen to what authorative scientists have to say about the subject. I’m talking about well respected and objective scientists who aren’t paid by the food industry to glorify a certain product. I’m talking about scienstist like Walter Willett, currently one of the most respected epidemiologist in the field.

http://www.in-cites.com/scientists/cli-20-aug2005.html
=> He’s the second most cited scientist in the field of clinical medicine in the last decade.

This is what I learned from reading willett’s take on soy in “Eat, drink and be healthy”:
- It’s not certain if soy prevents cancer or increases the risk of cancer! Different studies say different things and the positive research results get the most media attention. (I wonder why? $$).

@ Yura, I find it very hard to take an article serious that has a heading like that :-). But your concern is justified. There are plenty of other reasons to reconsider your protein sources. Tofu made from soy really isn’t that special and could possibly even be hazardous (testicular cancer? Alzheimer?? … these side effects are all still uncertain but very possible).

About Fatman’s article, I learned something which I thank you for Isreal. My knowledge about protein is extremely flawed, mainly because I have never really cared for weightlifting. (even though I know I should because it has many health benefits).

Never ever did I eat or drink a protein shake, whey or any other protein supplements. All my protein lovin’ comes from chicken! Mighty tasty this stuff is.

Greetings,
Nico

]]> By: Former Fat Guy http://www.FatManUnleashed.com/the-5-best-protein-sources-for-building-muscle/#comment-4691 Former Fat Guy Sat, 29 Mar 2008 21:08:02 +0000 http://www.FatManUnleashed.com/the-5-best-protein-sources-for-building-muscle/#comment-4691 However, you know that you don't have to eat all the plants (combine them) at the same sitting right? as long as you eat them during the day or over a few days you're fine. They don't have to be eaten at the same meal. The body stores them and then uses them when it needs to. However, you know that you don’t have to eat all the plants (combine them) at the same sitting right? as long as you eat them during the day or over a few days you’re fine. They don’t have to be eaten at the same meal. The body stores them and then uses them when it needs to.

]]> By: Dr. Kal http://www.FatManUnleashed.com/the-5-best-protein-sources-for-building-muscle/#comment-4690 Dr. Kal Sat, 29 Mar 2008 12:30:20 +0000 http://www.FatManUnleashed.com/the-5-best-protein-sources-for-building-muscle/#comment-4690 Soy is the only plant I know with all of the essential amino acids or the amino acids are body can not produce on its own. However, you can get all of your essential amino acids by combining plant proteins without using soy. Soy is the only plant I know with all of the essential amino acids or the amino acids are body can not produce on its own. However, you can get all of your essential amino acids by combining plant proteins without using soy.

]]> By: Dr. Kal http://www.FatManUnleashed.com/the-5-best-protein-sources-for-building-muscle/#comment-4689 Dr. Kal Sat, 29 Mar 2008 12:27:43 +0000 http://www.FatManUnleashed.com/the-5-best-protein-sources-for-building-muscle/#comment-4689 Rob, I love your blog but I have to disagree with you here. Whey and casein are the two major proteins in all mammalian milk including cows and humans. Check out this link: http://www.americanpregnancy.org/firstyearoflife/whatsinbreastmilk.html Rob, I love your blog but I have to disagree with you here. Whey and casein are the two major proteins in all mammalian milk including cows and humans.

Check out this link:
http://www.americanpregnancy.org/firstyearoflife/whatsinbreastmilk.html

]]> By: Former Fat Guy http://www.FatManUnleashed.com/the-5-best-protein-sources-for-building-muscle/#comment-4686 Former Fat Guy Sat, 29 Mar 2008 06:04:50 +0000 http://www.FatManUnleashed.com/the-5-best-protein-sources-for-building-muscle/#comment-4686 Whey is most certainly not part of human breast milk. Whey is a waste product made from milk during the making of cheese. It is not related to human breast milk. Whey often contains hidden MSG or monosodium glutamate, an excitotoxin, responsible for numerous health problems. Yes, they're good sources of protein, but are not protein sources that are good stick with eggs for your protein. Avoid Whey and Casein My two cents Whey is most certainly not part of human breast milk. Whey is a waste product made from milk during the making of cheese. It is not related to human breast milk. Whey often contains hidden MSG or monosodium glutamate, an excitotoxin, responsible for numerous health problems.

Yes, they’re good sources of protein, but are not protein sources that are good

stick with eggs for your protein.

Avoid Whey and Casein

My two cents

]]> By: Yura http://www.FatManUnleashed.com/the-5-best-protein-sources-for-building-muscle/#comment-4685 Yura Sat, 29 Mar 2008 01:48:38 +0000 http://www.FatManUnleashed.com/the-5-best-protein-sources-for-building-muscle/#comment-4685 Oh. Almost forgot. Dr. Kal, when you said that soy has all the necessary amino acids, did you mean absolutely every acid or just those that can be found in plants? I heard/read that animal protein has some of the acids, required by the humans, too. Thanks a lot for the advice :) Oh. Almost forgot.

Dr. Kal, when you said that soy has all the necessary amino acids, did you mean absolutely every acid or just those that can be found in plants? I heard/read that animal protein has some of the acids, required by the humans, too.

Thanks a lot for the advice :)

]]> By: Yura http://www.FatManUnleashed.com/the-5-best-protein-sources-for-building-muscle/#comment-4684 Yura Sat, 29 Mar 2008 01:45:13 +0000 http://www.FatManUnleashed.com/the-5-best-protein-sources-for-building-muscle/#comment-4684 Technically, it says that only soy consumed by pregnant women can harm the baby and make a male less masculine. Consuming soy as adults doesn't lead to any hormonal/behavioural changes. Hasn't FDA previously discreditized itself by giving wrong advice in the past to hold to its recommendations so dearly? Well, thanks for paying attention. Do reply to this thread, if you find anything interesting, please - I've subscribed to comments via email :) Technically, it says that only soy consumed by pregnant women can harm the baby and make a male less masculine. Consuming soy as adults doesn’t lead to any hormonal/behavioural changes.

Hasn’t FDA previously discreditized itself by giving wrong advice in the past to hold to its recommendations so dearly?

Well, thanks for paying attention. Do reply to this thread, if you find anything interesting, please - I’ve subscribed to comments via email :)

]]> By: Dr. Kal http://www.FatManUnleashed.com/the-5-best-protein-sources-for-building-muscle/#comment-4683 Dr. Kal Fri, 28 Mar 2008 20:57:22 +0000 http://www.FatManUnleashed.com/the-5-best-protein-sources-for-building-muscle/#comment-4683 Everything I have ever read in the past states that the estrogen like compounds in soy do not cause feminization or increase the risk of breast cancer in men. However, I would be really pissed if they were wrong, which is another reason I stay away from soy. Everything I have ever read in the past states that the estrogen like compounds in soy do not cause feminization or increase the risk of breast cancer in men. However, I would be really pissed if they were wrong, which is another reason I stay away from soy.

]]> By: Dr. Kal http://www.FatManUnleashed.com/the-5-best-protein-sources-for-building-muscle/#comment-4682 Dr. Kal Fri, 28 Mar 2008 20:53:50 +0000 http://www.FatManUnleashed.com/the-5-best-protein-sources-for-building-muscle/#comment-4682 Both the articles and the site were very interesting. If what they are saying is true, we should all eat and drink less soy. However, until I read the studies myself, I'll have to go with the FDA's recommendation and they say it is safe. Truth be told, I don't eat or drink soy, because I don't like the way it taste. Both the articles and the site were very interesting. If what they are saying is true, we should all eat and drink less soy. However, until I read the studies myself, I’ll have to go with the FDA’s recommendation and they say it is safe.

Truth be told, I don’t eat or drink soy, because I don’t like the way it taste.

]]> By: Israel http://www.FatManUnleashed.com/the-5-best-protein-sources-for-building-muscle/#comment-4681 Israel Fri, 28 Mar 2008 19:12:15 +0000 http://www.FatManUnleashed.com/the-5-best-protein-sources-for-building-muscle/#comment-4681 It sure does, I am thinking of going to the library to pick up a copy. It sure does, I am thinking of going to the library to pick up a copy.

]]> By: Chip http://www.FatManUnleashed.com/the-5-best-protein-sources-for-building-muscle/#comment-4679 Chip Fri, 28 Mar 2008 17:29:10 +0000 http://www.FatManUnleashed.com/the-5-best-protein-sources-for-building-muscle/#comment-4679 That's the book. And don't get me wrong, I'm not saying to stop eating animals. The book just provides an interesting perspective that I thought you would appreciate. That’s the book. And don’t get me wrong, I’m not saying to stop eating animals. The book just provides an interesting perspective that I thought you would appreciate.

]]> By: Israel http://www.FatManUnleashed.com/the-5-best-protein-sources-for-building-muscle/#comment-4675 Israel Fri, 28 Mar 2008 15:09:51 +0000 http://www.FatManUnleashed.com/the-5-best-protein-sources-for-building-muscle/#comment-4675 Wowsers. "Research is now showing that when you feed your baby soy formula, you're giving him or her the equivalent of five birth control pills a day." I used to drink Silk soy milk a few months back but stopped after reading that consuming too much soy can deliver estrogen into my system, raising the levels and estrogen in my body AND the risk of breast cancer. Dr. Kal you thoughts por favor...... Wowsers. “Research is now showing that when you feed your baby soy formula, you’re giving him or her the equivalent of five birth control pills a day.” I used to drink Silk soy milk a few months back but stopped after reading that consuming too much soy can deliver estrogen into my system, raising the levels and estrogen in my body AND the risk of breast cancer.

Dr. Kal you thoughts por favor……

]]> By: Yura http://www.FatManUnleashed.com/the-5-best-protein-sources-for-building-muscle/#comment-4673 Yura Fri, 28 Mar 2008 12:09:32 +0000 http://www.FatManUnleashed.com/the-5-best-protein-sources-for-building-muscle/#comment-4673 Dr. Kal, I'd like to know your opinion on these two sites/articles: wholesoystory.com/ wnd.com/news/article.asp?ARTICLE_ID=53327 I've been eating plenty of soy for protein (I'm a vegan and an athlete), but these articles got me thinking of switching to other beany stuff. Care to clarify on the points in the 2nd link? Thanks. Dr. Kal, I’d like to know your opinion on these two sites/articles:
wholesoystory.com/
wnd.com/news/article.asp?ARTICLE_ID=53327

I’ve been eating plenty of soy for protein (I’m a vegan and an athlete), but these articles got me thinking of switching to other beany stuff.

Care to clarify on the points in the 2nd link?

Thanks.

]]> By: Israel http://www.FatManUnleashed.com/the-5-best-protein-sources-for-building-muscle/#comment-4672 Israel Fri, 28 Mar 2008 07:23:31 +0000 http://www.FatManUnleashed.com/the-5-best-protein-sources-for-building-muscle/#comment-4672 I will, heading over to Google Books right now! Back. Just did some reading, read some interesting things. But I put it into perspective as I do with most things. Just moderate. Don't over consume animal protein. It's pretty obvious that if you over eat meat, you will get some health side effects. Did I miss something else Chip? http://books.google.com/books?id=FIRLLcLjyC8C&printsec=frontcover&dq=The+China+Study that's the link to Google Books, was that the correct one? I will, heading over to Google Books right now! Back. Just did some reading, read some interesting things. But I put it into perspective as I do with most things. Just moderate. Don’t over consume animal protein. It’s pretty obvious that if you over eat meat, you will get some health side effects. Did I miss something else Chip?

http://books.google.com/books?id=FIRLLcLjyC8C&printsec=frontcover&dq=The+China+Study that’s the link to Google Books, was that the correct one?

]]> By: Israel http://www.FatManUnleashed.com/the-5-best-protein-sources-for-building-muscle/#comment-4671 Israel Fri, 28 Mar 2008 07:10:25 +0000 http://www.FatManUnleashed.com/the-5-best-protein-sources-for-building-muscle/#comment-4671 I get the one at Sam's Club. It's made by EAS and is low cost, has good grams of protein per serving, and mixes easily with a spoon. I get the one at Sam’s Club. It’s made by EAS and is low cost, has good grams of protein per serving, and mixes easily with a spoon.

]]> By: Israel http://www.FatManUnleashed.com/the-5-best-protein-sources-for-building-muscle/#comment-4670 Israel Fri, 28 Mar 2008 07:08:51 +0000 http://www.FatManUnleashed.com/the-5-best-protein-sources-for-building-muscle/#comment-4670 It has been recommended by a lot of people I know. It has been recommended by a lot of people I know.

]]> By: Israel http://www.FatManUnleashed.com/the-5-best-protein-sources-for-building-muscle/#comment-4669 Israel Fri, 28 Mar 2008 07:08:28 +0000 http://www.FatManUnleashed.com/the-5-best-protein-sources-for-building-muscle/#comment-4669 Ah, that's why you are the resident Doctor at Fat Man Unleashed. Ah, that’s why you are the resident Doctor at Fat Man Unleashed.

]]> By: Israel http://www.FatManUnleashed.com/the-5-best-protein-sources-for-building-muscle/#comment-4668 Israel Fri, 28 Mar 2008 07:08:00 +0000 http://www.FatManUnleashed.com/the-5-best-protein-sources-for-building-muscle/#comment-4668 I have 2 blends. One is for a snack and one is for a after workout shake. The snack shake consists of milk, whey and glutamine. I stir it up with a spoon and it fills me up. For the post workout shake, I take water or green tea, add a couple scoops of whey protein, some glutamine and some creatine. Tastes funky, but I like funky. I have 2 blends. One is for a snack and one is for a after workout shake. The snack shake consists of milk, whey and glutamine. I stir it up with a spoon and it fills me up.

For the post workout shake, I take water or green tea, add a couple scoops of whey protein, some glutamine and some creatine. Tastes funky, but I like funky.

]]> By: Chip http://www.FatManUnleashed.com/the-5-best-protein-sources-for-building-muscle/#comment-4667 Chip Fri, 28 Mar 2008 05:15:13 +0000 http://www.FatManUnleashed.com/the-5-best-protein-sources-for-building-muscle/#comment-4667 I'd suggest checking out the book. It made me rethink the way I look at animal protein. I’d suggest checking out the book. It made me rethink the way I look at animal protein.

]]> By: Dr. Kal http://www.FatManUnleashed.com/the-5-best-protein-sources-for-building-muscle/#comment-4666 Dr. Kal Fri, 28 Mar 2008 04:59:53 +0000 http://www.FatManUnleashed.com/the-5-best-protein-sources-for-building-muscle/#comment-4666 The powders are very effective. Designer Whey makes great whey protein that is inexpensive. I'm lactose intolerant so I prefer Nature's Best IsoPure. The powders are very effective. Designer Whey makes great whey protein that is inexpensive. I’m lactose intolerant so I prefer Nature’s Best IsoPure.

]]> By: Dr. Kal http://www.FatManUnleashed.com/the-5-best-protein-sources-for-building-muscle/#comment-4665 Dr. Kal Fri, 28 Mar 2008 04:55:36 +0000 http://www.FatManUnleashed.com/the-5-best-protein-sources-for-building-muscle/#comment-4665 I really like Muscle Milk. It has a great combination of both whey and casein protein. I really like Muscle Milk. It has a great combination of both whey and casein protein.

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